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| bnz433 | | Jupiter |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 Sep 2018 - 11:29 Post title : Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables | | | Well, I didn't find anything, so I started getting into this to replace my busted pull cable (cable broke right at the barrel up in the switch housing).
The service manual says to remove just about everything - starter motor, disconnect map tubes (which can cause later problems, etc.), remove throttle bodies (which then, per manual, requires new O-rings....which I didn't/don't have), etc.
So I've disconnected both at the throttle body ends, without removing anything. I'll load up some pics for the disassembly portion, write a little step-by-step, including my little McGuyver tool to get the barrels out of the throttle end wheel, etc.
Then you guys that have done this can chime in with your method/solutions, and maybe DRMooman can tweak/edit and load it on his Weebly site?!!??
Stay tuned....should be done installing the new cables tonight when the crew goes off to sleep!
Jamie
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| rayglo | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 Sep 2018 - 16:42 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: bnz433) | | | Jamie, is it not possible to feed a cable into and through the existing cable covers? I wonder if you were to pull out the broken cable and then try and feed it back in, with some cable lube, it's only 3 feet or so.
I don't know if it will work, I am just supposing.
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 Sep 2018 - 17:08 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: rayglo) | | | No, because both ends have a "barrel" permanently fixed (solder/weld) to the stranded cable. The replacement cables come fully assembled, with new outer cover, permanently "lubricated internals", etc.
I'll get some photos up tonight/tomorrow.
Jamie
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| rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 11 Sep 2018 - 17:17 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: bnz433) | | | I was just about to edit my last post because of the possibility of both ends having balls. What a stupid sounding sentence.
Good luck
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| Linkdog | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 10/02/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,923 | | Location | : | Groveland, FL., United States |
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| | Posted : 11 Sep 2018 - 22:24 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: rayglo) | | | Snicker
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| rabbi | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 28/02/2012 | | Posts | : | 926 | | Location | : | Geelong, Victoria, Australia |
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| | Posted : 11 Sep 2018 - 23:07 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: Linkdog) | | | I changed mine by just removing the fuel tank and using extra long nose pliers and a lot of swearing, it took about 1 hour.
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| rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 12 Sep 2018 - 01:04 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: Linkdog) | | | Thanks pal
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| rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 12 Sep 2018 - 01:06 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: Linkdog) | | | I knew you wouldn't pass that up
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| rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 12 Sep 2018 - 01:15 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: rabbi) | | | I would agree to one hour of swearing.
I think you Aussies are way smarter in the Triumph court. You like to keep us in the dark.
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| danr620 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 28/06/2016 | | Posts | : | 92 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 14 Sep 2018 - 11:52 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: rayglo) | | | BNZ,
Just a thought, can you replace the barrel with a repair type? Is there enough room? Used to do this with clutch cables, repair would last for years. Once again just a thought and you seem to have the cable.
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 14 Sep 2018 - 13:58 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: danr620) | | | Hadn't looked into that as an option....didn't know it was available. I guess the key is:
a) where did it break? IE - do you still have enough cable length to do so.
b) can you get the barrel in the right size (or are they "universal"?) to fit in either/both ends on the Bird? I didn't measure mine before installing the new ones, but have the old on the shelf. I can measure and look into it as an option?
Been jammed up at work, so hope to get the writeup done soon, with pics.
EDIT - out of curiosity to danr620's comment, there seems to be a good number of options for replacement ends/bushings?? I'll measure mine and see what size they are, just for information purposes. It'd eliminate the need to remove the tank (and the cluster, disconnect cables, fuel line, etc.). Just not sure you could pull the throttle body end out far enough, if that's the end that breaks on someone???
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| Hornet | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 05/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 1,294 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 14 Sep 2018 - 17:13 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: bnz433) | | | Good idea, so this is something you could toss in a saddle bag and do a road side repair if necessary?
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| fab | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,515 | | Location | : | wyong, nsw, Australia |
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| | Posted : 14 Sep 2018 - 20:36 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: Hornet) | | | I carry one of these around in all my tool kits on my bikes.
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if anyone is looking for cables this site does them for most bikes including the tbird and a good price, I buy a lot of gear from them and find them to be great service and fast postage.
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| PapaSmurfMC | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 03/10/2013 | | Posts | : | 871 | | Location | : | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States |
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| | Posted : 15 Sep 2018 - 04:22 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: fab) | | |
fab wrote: ...I carry one of these around in all my tool kits on my bikes.
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Same here. I've got one from Oxford: Link Just $12 at the local bike shop.
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 15 Sep 2018 - 10:09 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: PapaSmurfMC) | | | Quick measurements on the Bird's cable ends:
Throttle push/pull barrels are all 6mm diameter by 7mm long
Clutch cable barrels are 8mm diameter by 9mm long. But the clutch ends have a teflon or plastic "shield that goes about 2/3 around the barrel. For easy slide/rotation in their respective holders. But in a pinch, I'd think you'd be okay without.
Up to my eyeballs in stuff lately...have the writeup to finish up for those that have to replace their cables. The good news is that the OE cables, which I got from bikebandit.com are only $40 each.
Jamie
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| MotorMac | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 29/08/2010 | | Posts | : | 1,790 | | Location | : | Nor Cal, United States |
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| | Posted : 17 Sep 2018 - 17:15 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: fab) | | | Great idea! These are available in the States, too, tho under different names for about $10USD.
eBay Link
Amazon, from "Pit Posse" Link
Probably a common kit, but news to me. Thanks!
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| AZCactus | | Taranis | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 01/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 4,524 | | Location | : | AZ |
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| | Posted : 18 Sep 2018 - 01:40 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: MotorMac) | | | thnx all, i'm on it like white on rice 
And need to carry a tool kit 
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| rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 18 Sep 2018 - 10:17 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: AZCactus) | | | Same for me. Thanks for the direct route. By the way where did you get your hose clamps from?
3/4 in wide by?
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| AZCactus | | Taranis | | | | Reg. Date | : | 01/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 4,524 | | Location | : | AZ |
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| | Posted : 18 Sep 2018 - 11:27 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: rayglo) | | | Someone posted about high quality clamps a while back. I still have the originals.
Also Papa mentioned these Link
And try NAPA
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| rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 18 Sep 2018 - 12:49 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: AZCactus) | | | Thanks, Papa seems to be in the know.
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| GerPa | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 10/12/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,919 | | Location | : | Mackay, Central Queensland, Australia |
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| | Posted : 24 Sep 2018 - 22:30 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: fab) | | |
fab wrote:
I carry one of these around in all my tool kits on my bikes.
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if anyone is looking for cables this site does them for most bikes including the tbird and a good price, I buy a lot of gear from them and find them to be great service and fast postage. |
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Thanks for the Lead Jamie How could anyone NOT carry a spare set of these? They were Ex Stock, from WeMoto in Sydney A$64.82 using "Snail Mail" Delivered in 4 days.
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| fab | | Thor | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/10/2009 | | Posts | : | 2,515 | | Location | : | wyong, nsw, Australia |
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| | Posted : 25 Sep 2018 - 02:04 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: GerPa) | | |
GerPa wrote:
fab wrote:
I carry one of these around in all my tool kits on my bikes.
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Thanks for the Lead Jamie How could anyone NOT carry a spare set of these? They were Ex Stock, from WeMoto in Sydney A$64.82 using "Snail Mail" Delivered in 4 days.
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| AZCactus | | Taranis | | | | Reg. Date | : | 01/05/2013 | | Posts | : | 4,524 | | Location | : | AZ |
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| | Posted : 25 Sep 2018 - 02:22 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: GerPa) | | | GerPa wrote:
...How could anyone NOT carry a spare set of these? They were Ex Stock, from WeMoto in Sydney A$64.82 using "Snail Mail" Delivered in 4 days.
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| PapaSmurfMC | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/10/2013 | | Posts | : | 871 | | Location | : | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States |
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| | Posted : 25 Sep 2018 - 04:01 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: rayglo) | | |
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Who, me?
I think I bought those mainly because they were black and I was too lazy to paint my own. They did turn out to be pretty decent, though.
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| rayglo | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 27/10/2012 | | Posts | : | 1,746 | | Location | : | east brunswick, nj, United States |
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| | Posted : 26 Sep 2018 - 02:27 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: PapaSmurfMC) | | | Yeah you Papa, so you would recommend them.
By any chance do you remember a post about a push button clevis pin that came with an insert for an exact fit?
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| PapaSmurfMC | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/10/2013 | | Posts | : | 871 | | Location | : | Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States |
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| | Posted : 26 Sep 2018 - 04:00 Post title : Re: Replace Throttle Push and Pull Cables (Re: rayglo) | | |
| rayglo wrote: ...By any chance do you remember a post about a push button clevis pin that came with an insert for an exact fit?... |
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Sorry, Ray; don't even remember what I had for lunch today. Some context would help, though. Clevis pin for what? Rear caliper?
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